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ballrific
2500+ posts
06/29/09 04:12 PM
how difficult to "move" ceiling fan?

previous owners, for some reason, stuck the ceiling fan right in the middle of bedroom so bed is not under it. Need to move it but wondering how hard other than running the electrical wire and filling in large hole...

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LITNIN HORNSponsor
1000+ posts
06/29/09 05:08 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]



It needs to be properly braced with UL listed outlet box, or a standard outlet box mounted directly to structure with fan supported by the structure...not the outlet box.

Assuming you have attic space, none of this should be too difficult...if not, you will have to tear up and repair a large chunk of ceiling.

















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JohnnyM
5000+ posts
06/29/09 06:20 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

In reply to:

previous owners, for some reason, stuck the ceiling fan right in the middle of bedroom so bed is not under it.




am i reading this right? are you really asking why they put it in the middle of the room and not over the spot where your bed now is? i don't know if i've ever seen a room where a fan is NOT in the middle. isn't that the best in terms of airflow?

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LITNIN HORNSponsor
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06/29/09 10:49 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]



Middle of room would be best for airflow for the whole room, but in a bedroom, where you may want more concentration over the bed, it makes sense to center the fan over the foot of the bed.

















"Young ranks somewhere between William Travis and Willie Nelson."
-Gary Shelton, St. Petersburg Times

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ballrific
2500+ posts
06/29/09 11:35 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

yeah, for a small, square room I agree, middle of room is ideal. I failed to mention our bedroom is a rectangle and our bed had to go against the wall on one of the smaller walls, if that makes sense. Hence, fan is a few feet past feet, can't even feel it. Like someone said earlier, fan at your feet is what im used to.

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BigWill
10,000+ posts
06/30/09 12:06 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

Home Depot sells a device that you insert through a small hole in the ceiling. You twist it and it expands to dig little spike claw dealies into the ceiling joists. Once that's tightened, you attach the box, run the wire, etc.

Here's the rub. You can't just drywall patch the hole. You need to install a blank plate, which will always be visable. Why? Because this will now be a "junction", a wire connection point. If a wire nut ever loosens up, you are [censored].

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BigWill
10,000+ posts
06/30/09 12:34 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

here's the thingy...not sure if this is the brand that HD sells, but it is similar The Link

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Luke Duke
2500+ posts
06/30/09 07:58 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

Are you sure that your fan isn't on reverse?




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accuratehornSponsor
5000+ posts
06/30/09 08:45 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

More difficult than moving the bed under the fan.




Knowledge is good

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ballrific
2500+ posts
06/30/09 10:38 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

not on reverse and i dont think we want to move the bed to the center of the room but we might if this is tough to do.

from someone who can't sleep without being cool, imagine having your fan about 5 ft past the foot of your bed. yeah, your feet kind of feel it, but that's about it.

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bevosayshi
1000+ posts
06/30/09 01:33 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

Sleep naked and with sheets only...problem solved.

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brntorng
2500+ posts
06/30/09 04:39 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

Try running the fan in reverse. It should create a better air flow along the bed from head to toe.

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Perham1
2500+ posts
07/01/09 01:33 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: accuratehorn]

In reply to:

More difficult than moving the bed under the fan.




Now that's some Mark Twain/Groucho Marx like advice.

I was also wondering - what if the former occupant/future occupant wants to place the bed in a different spot (or is the room configured so that the bed can only go in one place)?

The middle of the room is where most fans go. I don't think I've seen a ceiling fan that wasn't placed in the middle.





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LITNIN HORNSponsor
1000+ posts
07/01/09 06:56 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]




"i don't know if i've ever seen a room where a fan is NOT in the middle."
"I don't think I've seen a ceiling fan that wasn't placed in the middle."


Y'all hang out in too many spec houses.

















"Young ranks somewhere between William Travis and Willie Nelson."
-Gary Shelton, St. Petersburg Times

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shorty
500+ posts
07/02/09 08:48 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

My experience with ceiling fans is you get very little direct air on you if you are directly under the fan. You can feel more of a breeze away from the fan.

If it is a small bedroom, the fan may be too big. The only area where you would feel the breeze in a small bedroom with a large fan would be the up the walls.

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JohnnyM
5000+ posts
07/02/09 09:09 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

I have another ceiling fan question and didn't want to start a new thread....

I have a fan with a light. I want them to be on a dimmer. However, the separate wires were not pulled to the switch box.

1. How hard is it to fix the wiring issue? Can I tape two wires to the one and pull it through?

2. If I bought a fan that runs via remote control, this issue is moot correct (unless I wanted a dimmer on the wall as well)?

How about the cost of re-wire vs the remote-controlled-fan? We want to replace all the fans in the house anyway, so we're already looking to buy new fans. But if it's going to be a [censored] to re-wire we may just opt for remote fans.

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Summerof79
2500+ posts
07/02/09 11:20 AM
Re: how difficult to [re: ballrific]

1) so you have acess to the attic above your bedroom? If so you can do all the work from the attic side,

2) If the room is a larger rectangle I might consider putting in TWO fans so the room is "balanced" astetically. You could probably run both fans off the existing box.

3) How large is your current fan? You may have a 48 inch fan that you could move up to a 52 or even a 60 inch fan. This woudl obviously be the easiest fix. The larger blades should move enough extra air to effect the bed area more.

4) Install this 74 inch twin spinner-





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ballrific
2500+ posts
07/02/09 11:33 AM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

I think that twin spinner would be perfect! they have those at lowes/HD? seriously, I could just replace it. hmmm...

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LITNIN HORNSponsor
1000+ posts
07/02/09 12:29 PM
Re: how difficult to [re: ballrific]



ballrific...I've never seen that fan at Lowe's or HD, though I haven't shopped either for fans in a while. Also, the ones I have seen like that are in the $500.00 to $1000.00 range. Companies are proud of their quirkiness. They are neat, though.

JohnnyM...If you have attic space, you could fish another wire into the switch box, but using the existing wire as a pull wire is probably not an option since they are required to be stapled in place, by code. Personally, I would go the 'remote' route. There are several ways you can do this...buy a fan that is already equipped with the controls, buy a retrofit kit for your existing fan, which has a remote control, or buy a kit that has the 'remote' built into a wall switch, with all of the controls...this would take the place of your existing switch. For both of the retros, you will have to open the canopy of the ceiling fan and wire in a receiver...instructions are usually clear enough. I have the wall control 'remotes' in all rooms of my house except the family room and the master bedroom. One thing you need to be aware of, when you install multiple remote controls, wall or handheld, is there are dip switches that need to be matched up from remote to receiver. They are matched up in the package, but if you don't reset them, your control in the master may affect the fan in another room...on and on...so each fan needs a different code.



















"Young ranks somewhere between William Travis and Willie Nelson."
-Gary Shelton, St. Petersburg Times

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RogerSponsor
2500+ posts
07/02/09 01:18 PM
Re: how difficult to "move" ceiling fan? [re: ballrific]

In reply to:

Personally, I would go the 'remote' route. There are several ways you can do this...buy a fan that is already equipped with the controls, buy a retrofit kit for your existing fan, which has a remote control, or buy a kit that has the 'remote' built into a wall switch, with all of the controls...this would take the place of your existing switch. For both of the retros, you will have to open the canopy of the ceiling fan and wire in a receiver...instructions are usually clear enough. I have the wall control 'remotes' in all rooms of my house except the family room and the master bedroom. One thing you need to be aware of, when you install multiple remote controls, wall or handheld, is there are dip switches that need to be matched up from remote to receiver. They are matched up in the package, but if you don't reset them, your control in the master may affect the fan in another room...on and on...so each fan needs a different code.




I've gotten pretty decent at changing fans and light fixtures, as well as knowing what I can't do and have a list of things when I get time to hire an electrician. what was said above is the truth, from personal experience trying to add the dimmer yourself will cost you more in the long run, because you will end up with an electrician at the house. Even if you plan on hiring an electrician the cheaper route will be to replace the fans with pre-wired remotes. I'm about to do this myself in my living room.

Another potential option is to just replace the lights on your fans. You can get lights that aren't on dimmers but have multiple settings via a pull cord. If you are looking to use CFL bulb this might be your best option as I haven't found a good CFL that takes dimmers well (and yes this includes bulbs specifically designed for dimmers).

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