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Shark4
1000+ posts
01/04/10 09:06 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this...

...and I'd love to hear your comments. It is the most thoughtful piece I've seen and completely changed my mind about the possibility of...well, read the article.

All in favor say "Aye"

This would bury the SEC




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Back to Texas
250+ posts
01/04/10 09:22 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

I have a lot of respect for the academics in the Big 10, but this just doesn't excite me. Texas has almost nothing to gain by playing most of the schools in football and wouldn't mean more to me than winning out current schedule.

OU>tOSU
UNL=PSU
Ok State = Wiscy
Tech = Iowa
A&M = Michigan
etc
etc

He makes great points about the power position Texas is in with bringing the Texas TV markets, but this isn't what I would blow ups status quo for.




"It takes a special person to understand and love being a part of the traditions that encompass being an Aggie. The "average" person will never understand what it means to "Bleed Maroon"." -texags poster

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SitraAchra
100+ posts
01/04/10 09:26 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Aye.

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kgpSponsor
2500+ posts
01/04/10 09:33 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Aggy=Michigan???





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texas_ex2000
1000+ posts
01/04/10 09:39 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Texas does not belong to a conference that includes Pennsylvania.

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smwhornSponsor
2500+ posts
01/04/10 09:42 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

aggy = Michigan ? Please tell us all you were joking.




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general35
5000+ posts
01/04/10 10:01 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Geographically it makes little sense, however, academically it does. TX would not be a good match for the SEC. Tx couldnt leave alone though. I think we would be stuck with A&M.

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dmkhorns
< 25 posts
01/04/10 10:06 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Back to Texas]

UNL=PSU??

Not in 1994.

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Texasboozer
1000+ posts
01/04/10 10:07 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

When Texas went to the Big12, the state politicians got involved. Not sure that wouldn't happen again. It would certainly spruce up our schedule.

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BigWill
10,000+ posts
01/04/10 10:10 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Northwestern would kick the [censored] out of aggy.

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BevoJoe
2500+ posts
01/04/10 10:20 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

No way!! We don't belong with all those yaqnkee schools. That would suck.




"Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid." John Wayne

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Shark4
1000+ posts
01/04/10 10:21 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: BigWill]

In reply to:

Northwestern would kick the [censored] out of aggy.




Yeah, pretty much.





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TexanneSponsor
10,000+ posts
01/04/10 10:29 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

I'd like to see the Texas powers that be explore this. It's an interesting proposal, and one I'd prefer to the Pac 10.




Oklahoma: First they stole the land. Then they stole their colors from Harvard, their fight song from Yale, their players from Texas, and their state song from a Broadway play. -- Elgin Hot Sausage

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Orangesweat
2002 Omaha Challenge Champion
01/04/10 10:37 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

In reply to:

A&M = Michigan




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Shark4
1000+ posts
01/04/10 10:40 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: BevoJoe]

In reply to:

No way!! We don't belong with all those yaqnkee schools. That would suck.




Perhaps but I'd bet that $30 million/yr in TV money (up from $12 million now) would diminish the suckage.




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jdelatorreSponsor
250+ posts
01/04/10 10:42 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Any major conference realignment at this point will likely involve "geographic challenge" if the goal is bring in new television markets.




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Friday
1000+ posts
01/04/10 10:49 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Interesting. Eventually, I think Notre Dame will come around. If Texas did bolt, the remaining scramble would be mayhem. Colorado, Aggie, Nebraska, and Oklahoma would start banging on the Pac 10 door.




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catfishhorn
500+ posts
01/04/10 10:51 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Not just no, but HELL NO!!

At least now it's pretty easy to travel to the away games.




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TexLaw04
1000+ posts
01/04/10 10:53 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

I am not a fan of Texas moving to the Big Ten, but this guy has put forward the best arguments for both sides and unquestionably the best analysis I have read. There's no doubt there would be a good academic and program-profile match with the likes of Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, etc.

However, I cannot simply get over the geography. The poorest analogy of this guy's piece is the Cowboys and the NFC East. When it comes to pro sports divisions, geography can be meaningless (remember when the Braves were in the NL West? And the Falcons in the NFC West?). It's not a big deal for the Cowboys to make a trip to New York, Philly and DC over the course of a season.

For college sports, though, it's a whole different story. In sports like basketball, we'd have to make trips all the way to State College in the middle of the week in some instances. The closest Big Ten city to Austin is farther away than the farthest Big XII city. This means that there's no way we could make the move by ourselves.

In the long run (say 10-15 years), I just don't think the Big XII is viable. The population base is by far the smallest of the BCS conferences, and this means our TV deals will never be what the SEC's or Big Ten's is. Eventually, the large TV markets of the west coast will be tempting to Colorado, or the Big Ten markets will tempt Missouri or possibly Iowa State. If either of those things happens, the conference will be hard-pressed to survive, as Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma simply have a fraction of the TV sets as Texas does.

I really think that we could see a shift toward some 16-team "superconferences," which I personally think is long overdue. For example, you could have a Pac-10 that includes Colorado, Utah, BYU, Boise State, Colorado State and Nebraska. An expanded Big Ten could add Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State and Notre Dame. The SEC could add Texas, A&M, OU and Oklahoma State.

The next step would be to further define the strata in Division I athletics. Whereas we currently have I-A and I-AA, a new I-AAA subdivision could be created, with the likes of New Mexico State, Idaho, Ball State, Florida International, etc. These schools really have no business competing at the I-A level anyway.

With 16-team conferences, you'd have two 8-team divisions, and you'd play only the teams in your division during the regular season. Then you'd play the other division in a CCG. This sets things up perfectly for an eventual national championship playoff.

Just my two cents.




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Longhorny630
500+ posts
01/04/10 10:54 PM
Re: B10 Expansion. Horn fans need to read this... [re: Shark4]

Aye, as I currently get the Big 10 network and would love to see every single game on TV.




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